Posted by Morris Dovey on October 30, 2011, 11:25 pm
On 10/30/11 5:01 PM, eric gisse wrote:
> Since Rossi isn't saying, that does strike me as a unique challenge.
I'm not attempting to reverse-engineer what Rossi claims: a device
fueled with nickel and hydrogen and which requires a proprietary catalyst.
I thought about all I've heard about catalysts and decided that if a
Ni/H fusion reaction is possible, then it should proceed at some
(pressure,temperature) combination with or without a catalyst. (Think
about it - in how many ways can an H+ ion be aligned?)
I may be wrong, but IF I'm right THEN I have a physics discovery rather
than a patentable device, and I intend to publish that discovery for
everyone to use, and make my test data available so that physicists can
improve our understanding of the universe.
> The most hilarious outcome would be if Morris deciphered the trade secret
> in the event that Rossi isn't full of shit [unlikely] and started selling
> some devices on his own or just published how to make it.
I'm really hoping that Rossi has a genuine breakthrough. It /would/ be
amusing if his catalyst were part of a protective disinformation effort
and I achieved fusion without it - but in that case, we would all still
owe Rossi a debt of gratitude for pointing the way toward a productive
new technology.
> Patents on stuff like this will be granted....if there's a working model.
> Otherwise...lol
You're right about that, but the exciting part wouldn't be the fusion
reactor itself - it'd be all of the new technology that would be made
possible. :-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
http://www.iedu.com/Solar/
Posted by eric gisse on October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
> On 10/30/11 5:01 PM, eric gisse wrote:
>
>> Since Rossi isn't saying, that does strike me as a unique challenge.
>
> I'm not attempting to reverse-engineer what Rossi claims: a device
> fueled with nickel and hydrogen and which requires a proprietary
> catalyst.
>
> I thought about all I've heard about catalysts and decided that if a
> Ni/H fusion reaction is possible, then it should proceed at some
> (pressure,temperature) combination with or without a catalyst. (Think
> about it - in how many ways can an H+ ion be aligned?)
Nickle-Hydrogen fusion has a significantly higher threshhold than other
possible combinations.
Posted by Morris Dovey on October 31, 2011, 7:05 am
On 10/30/11 7:06 PM, eric gisse wrote:
> Nickle-Hydrogen fusion has a significantly higher threshhold than other
> possible combinations.
I understand that. Reactions should favor production of Ni and Fe - and
yet expert observers are reporting Ni/H fusion producing Cu as the
primary end product...
I have an immediate application for such a small heat source, and I'm
too impatient (and too old) to sit around waiting for someone else to
figure Rossi's device out for me so that I can then continue developing
my application.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
http://www.iedu.com/Solar/
Posted by CWatters on November 4, 2011, 3:31 pm
On 31/10/2011 07:05, Morris Dovey wrote:
> On 10/30/11 7:06 PM, eric gisse wrote:
>> Nickle-Hydrogen fusion has a significantly higher threshhold than other
>> possible combinations.
> I understand that. Reactions should favor production of Ni and Fe - and
> yet expert observers are reporting Ni/H fusion producing Cu as the
> primary end product...
Perhaps CU is the catalyst :-)
Posted by amdx on October 30, 2011, 3:12 pm
> -----
> * If anyone would like to play along, I could use some help with a
> combination heater/temperature sensor using an up to 16-inch (406.4mm)
> nichrome wire threaded through ceramic cores (inside a 1/4x4-inch copper
> tube that's closed on one end) with one side connected to ground and the
> other to a SPST relay so that when the relay is powered, the wire will
> be heated with AC power; and when the relay is unpowered, the resistance
> of the wire can be sensed to determine its temperature. The sensing
> circuit needs to produce an output voltage that can be fed to an Arduino
> A/D converter with a 5VDC Vref and sharing the ground connection. Heater
> power needs to be something that can be reasonably derived from 120VAC
> 60Hz mains to provide power in the 250W neighborhood. I just uploaded a
> photo of some ceramic cores to
> http://www.iedu.com/Solar/Electricity/Fusion/Core4 (500x400).jpg
Hi Morris,
Not sure I clearly understand what you want, but I'll stick my neck out!
After you have heated the wire then you want to measure the resistance
of the wire and from that deduce the temperature. I would want to
totally isolate the AC from the resistance measurement. A DPDT relay
would do that. (isolate both ends of the wire. I don't know about
connecting AC neutral to 5v ground, might be ok, but...)
Unless you cycle the relay for heat/measure modes, I don't see how you
will know when to stop heating. So, you have the relay on some clock
cycle, (heat 5 seconds measure temperature 1 second) then when the
proper temp is reached the relay measures temp only until temp drops
below some threshold then your heat/measure cycle starts again.
To measure the resistance of the wire, you will drive some DC current
through the wire and a series (sense) resistor and measure the voltage
across the sense resistor. The voltage will probably need to be
amplified before going to the Arduino.
There my be a way to sense the AC current to the wire and know the
temp of the wire but any AC voltage fluctuations to you home may cause
errors. I'm sure there is a way to compensate for that though.
Ok, have I got the basic idea?
Fill me in.
Thanks, Mikek
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