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Posted by Doctor Drivel on March 14, 2006, 12:11 pm

Away from the living areas.  It makes sense.  Make the basement a utility

Posted by Doctor Drivel on March 14, 2006, 12:09 pm

The UK has the smallest, pokiest most expensive houses in the developed
world.  Space  upstairs to fit a "laundry room"?  We only dream of such
things.  A basement?  That's Hollywood man!  If we had basements we would
have them done out in pink.

Posted by Morris Dovey on March 12, 2006, 11:53 pm
 Doctor Drivel (in
4414ad36$$6390$92e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net) said:

|| daestrom (in rAWQf.17361$jf2.17162@twister.nyroc.rr.com) said:
||| Now that's 'Drivel'.  Washing machines in the US don't have
||| 'heaters' built into them.  (well, maybe *some* brand out there
||| does, but by and large the most common units do not).
|| At least some of the big name manufacturers' top brands do indeed
|| incorporate heating elements.
| If your water is heated by electric, it is the same thing.  From
| what I know all UK machines have an internal electric heater, to
| heater or raise the temperature in the water, which could have been
| heated by gas in the main water system.

Well, it's the same to the extent that the water temperature is
raised. :-)

If the water in the pipe between the DHW is cold, then it turns out to
be uneconomical to soak the load with cold water, run cold water into
the drain, and then attempt to achieve a minimum wash temperature by
adding enough hot water to warm the cold water in the fabric.

Some areas of the US have a serious need to minimize water use and one
of the major design goals is to reduce the demand. If you have a
chance, check out the amount of water used in the top-loading Maytag
Neptune - you'll be amazed.

In that machine there is a tiny sump between the tub and the drain;
and the electrical heating (of only a tiny amount of water) is done
there. The amount of water actually heated in the washer is unlikely
to be anywhere near the amount of DHW drawn from the tank and left to
cool in the pipe - or the amount of cold water wasted while the DHW
traveled from the tank to the machine.

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Guy King on March 13, 2006, 7:47 am

It's getting increasingly hard to find a hot/cold fill washing machine.
They all appear to be cold fill only these days.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Posted by Solar Flare on March 14, 2006, 2:47 am
 Not in the Americas


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