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Posted by john.iddikkula on July 25, 2007, 12:38 pm
Renewable does not mean green (says Inderscience's International
Journal of Nuclear Governance). That is the claim of Jesse Ausubel of
the Rockefeller University in New York.


Writing in Inderscience's International Journal of Nuclear Governance,
Economy and Ecology, Ausubel explains that building enough wind farms,
damming enough rivers, and growing enough biomass to meet global
energy demands will wreck the environment.

Posted by Anthony Matonak on July 25, 2007, 12:54 pm
john.iddikkula@gmail.com wrote:

There are always ways to really screw up and do something badly.
There are also ways to do it right and not screw up the environment.
I believe it is possible to meet global energy demands with renewable
energy without wrecking the environment.


Posted by Anthony Matonak on July 25, 2007, 1:15 pm
 john.iddikkula@gmail.com wrote:

I don't normally double-reply but after reading this pro-nuclear
propaganda piece I just had to point out some blatant twisting of
facts and outright lies.

For instance...
: A photovoltaic solar cell plant would require painting black about
: than 150 square kilometers plus land for storage and retrieval to
: equal a 1000 MWe nuclear plant. Moreover, every form of renewable
: energy involves vast infrastructure, such as concrete, steel, and
: access roads.

This is patently false. Anyone with solar PV panels on their roof
knows that they didn't have to paint black any land, add any more
roads or use vast amounts of concrete and steel. There are enough
roofs and parking lots in the United States that, if covered in
PV panels, would provide several times the amount of electricity
the country uses.

The author does the same thing with wind farms by counting the
entire land area of the wind farm and not the footprint of the
towers themselves. Almost all of the land area of a wind farm
can be used for other purposes, such as growing crops.

I'm sure he's also fudging the figures for biomass and is
completely disregarding emerging technologies such as tapping
ocean currents and flying wind turbines.

Lastly, of course, nuclear power is off-topic for this newsgroup.


Posted by Terryc on July 26, 2007, 12:01 pm
 Anthony Matonak wrote:

Probably. They usually assume run away "energy" demands.

Now that is wacko.

Emerging technologies; we can use seweage farms to produce oil.

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