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Posted by Dan Reyes on November 14, 2006, 6:36 pm
 
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:39:50 +0000, Anthony Matonak wrote:


Granted it's not likely, but it's not as if present-day physics has all
the answers. You hear about things like 'zero-point energy'; maybe the
Steorn device is tapping that somehow.

If it's a scam or hoax, none of the skeptics on the forum has seen the
slightest evidence for one - Steorn isn't asking for money, they are a
real company, their CEO is a real engineer, etc.

They claim to have tested the device for three years, so whatever it is,
it's not due to a mistake.



Posted by Eeyore on November 14, 2006, 6:51 pm
 


Dan Reyes wrote:


I'd like to point out that they don't claim tobe able to amke 'free energy'.

Their claim is to have made a generator with > 100% efficiency. I won't stop
right now to argue over that claim since it's moot to my next point.

Anyway what that means is that it's just a bit more efficient than normal
generators. It still needs an energy input to run it. No free lunch. No
perpetual motion.

Graham



Posted by Windsun on November 14, 2006, 7:23 pm
 Uhm.. then what does it mean when he claims that it is over 100% efficient?

That, by definition, is a perpetual motion machine. Which makes it a scam.

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Posted by Steve O'Hara-Smith on November 14, 2006, 9:47 pm
 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:23:03 GMT


    It's not a scam until they try to con money or something else of
value out of people with it. AFAICS there is as yet no sign of this
happening - time will tell, it may prove to be a scam, a mistake, a hoax or
even (no matter how unlikely it seems) real. Given the April 1 date for the
end of testing I'm guessing it's a hoax.

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Posted by Anthony Matonak on November 15, 2006, 1:44 am
 Eeyore wrote:
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Just hook the output to the input and it'll drive itself and produce
power at the same time! There you go, both a free lunch, no energy
input needed and perpetual motion all at the same time.

Anthony

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