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Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 10:33 pm
 


John Stumbles wrote:


We have good friends like the Australians with plenty of uranium.


Graham


Posted by The Natural Philosopher on October 18, 2007, 1:01 am
 
John Stumbles wrote:

Indeed. Mostly buried around windscale I believe..

Posted by Jonathan on October 23, 2007, 9:22 am
 

While we're on that, I keep seeing people saying that nuclear is the
greenest and most reliable way forward.
Let's see how that's working out
-------------------------------------------
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=al.Wd1IKLK0o&refer=
=uk
"Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- British Energy Group Plc, the U.K.'s biggest
power generator, fell the most in a year in London trading after
safety concerns forced shutdowns at two nuclear plants."
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(that's 50% of nuclear capacity offline right now)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html
Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says
new study
 Output peaked in 2006 and will fall 7% a year
 Decline in gas, coal and *uranium* also predicted
-------------------------------------------

So, we've got worries about power cuts this winter, decreased uranium
production, oil prices hitting new highs every week...and STILL people
dismiss micro-generation and self-sustainability.


Posted by Doctor Drivel on October 23, 2007, 9:34 am
 


While we're on that, I keep seeing people saying that nuclear is the
greenest and most reliable way forward.
Let's see how that's working out
-------------------------------------------
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid  601102&sid=al.Wd1IKLK0o&refer=uk
"Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- British Energy Group Plc, the U.K.'s biggest
power generator, fell the most in a year in London trading after
safety concerns forced shutdowns at two nuclear plants."
-------------------------------------------
(that's 50% of nuclear capacity offline right now)
-------------------------------------------
http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html
Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says
new study
Output peaked in 2006 and will fall 7% a year
Decline in gas, coal and *uranium* also predicted
-------------------------------------------

So, we've got worries about power cuts this winter, decreased uranium
production, oil prices hitting new highs every week...and STILL people
dismiss micro-generation and self-sustainability.
<<<<

Yep.  I was reading that the Rivers Mersey and Seven, would generate about 6
to 7% of the UK power by tidal means alone...and make some bridges for free.
Then the still introduction of wind farms, onshore and offshore.  High
insulation and air-tightness test of home built with passive solar in
design, better town planning to reduce travelling, more efficient
appliances, local Combined Heat & Power generation for districts, burning of
waste and not re-cycling the stuff which uses more energy to re-cycle, etc,
etc.

It all adds up, to reduce fossil and nuclear fuel demand.


Posted by Andy Champ on October 23, 2007, 7:48 pm
 Doctor Drivel wrote:

Trouble with the tidal stuff is it comes and goes, and blocking off
those rivers would cause major environmental problems too.

We don't need power for a 6 hour(ish) period every 12.5 hours, we need
it in daytime (mostly).  A tidal system would make things very hard for
the conventional systems that don't like being turned on and off.

Unless you want use Loch Ness for pumped storage?

We should have spent money on Fusion back in the 1960s.  We'd probably
have it now, but as it is the politician's can't see beyond the next
election and don't care.

Andy

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