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Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 12:00 pm
 


Mary Fisher wrote:


The AGWists could learn from inspection of that statement too.

Graham


Posted by Jim on October 19, 2007, 12:30 am
 


    Oh, and absolutely never, I mean never, make absolute statements.




Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 11:58 am
 

David Hansen wrote:


past.

I believe it can be done without the wasteful, pointless and excessive
paperwork. Simply
giving a record of the postcode and street number to qualify ought to be enough.
You
couldn't get it twice at the same address if fraud was one's concern.



turbines and

I saw no evidence of that reduction when I was there myself FWIW. If you could
let me know
what it was you saw I'd be very interested as I'm looking to replace the
plasterboard
ceiling in my single storey extension and I know it has no insulation there at
present.



It's not anything broken with MY newsreader for sure.

Now, if I may maintain your interest,  my point is that subsidised or even
'free' loft
insulation to today's standards would provide a better 'return on investment'
than any fancy
windmill projects and should be a HIGH priority since it reduces actual demand.
Reducing
demand/use has to be the most sane way to deal with today's energy issues.

Graham


Posted by Mary Fisher on October 14, 2007, 12:56 pm
 

...


What struck me in particular was this paragraph:

"But the study from the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows
that some of the measures, such as solar panels to heat water, would
cost 5,000 to install but reduce average bills by only 24 a year and
would take about 208 years to pay back."

        Ours cost us 2000 two years ago. Our gas bills (the only other
water heating we had) were reduced by almost 300 in the first year.


... I'm sure even the most sceptical person in this group can
see all of the figures are utter nonsense. But what to do about an
ignorant public?

        There are some you can't convince, they'll have to continue having
higher bills than they need.

Nonsense like this ruins years of hard work rebuilding the reputation
of an industry which has already had hard times due to mis-selling.

        I think, looking at the number of companies now in the solar water
heating business, that they can't be having such hard times. There are still
many of us around who are prepared to put our money where our mouths are.
And we're the winners!

I've written to the RICS asking to the see full report, where the data
came from, and how they worked their figures out. But meantime, does
anyone have any thoughts on what the agenda of this report might be,
apart from to spread lies and mis-information?

        It would be interesting to see their reply but I do think that
newspaper, television and radio reports aren't usually to be believed. They
dwell on the sensational and alter reports to suit their 'newsworthiness'.

        We stopped buying newspapers many years ago because of this (must
have saved quite a bit in that time!), we don't have a television but I've
seen it in others' houses and we're very sceptical about even the erstwhile
respectable and trustworthy Radio 4.

Mary



Posted by Eeyore on October 14, 2007, 2:37 pm
 

Mary Fisher wrote:


Par for the course. Even the Nobel comittee were ignorant enough to get taken in
by Al Gore's comedy film.

Graham


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