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Posted by Mary Fisher on October 15, 2007, 9:00 am
 


Thank you!

A fortnight before he was due to go out he was called in by his boss and
told he'd be going somewhere else instead. We were all relieved - but not a
little guilty for feeling like that. It was at the expense of some other
parents' son, wife's husband and children's father :-(

His new posting was to High Wycombe, in Buckinghamshire and with it came the
rank of Chief Technician (the highest he can get).

He didn't like it there, was 'flying a desk' and the base is largely
civilian as well as other services but it did give him the excuse to buy a
Triumph m/c to commute from his house in Wiltshire. Recently he was restored
to RAF Lyneham and told me last night that he was very happy there, dealing
with aeroplanes and in charge of real people who knew what they were doing.

On his birthday, just before Christmas, he's due to do a duty stint in the
Falklands for a few months.

As I said, somewhere else, in the first year the gas bills plummeted by
about 300 and have been maintained at the low level. We've filed all the
utility bills for the forty three years we've been in this house but haven't
really analysed them - life's too short (and getting shorter!) to worry.
We're confident that we did the right thing by getting the solar panel and
enjoyed the huge refund we got from the gas company :-) We also got quite a
large one from the electricity company too, I assume that's the result of
replacing our remaining tungsten light bulbs with low energy ones and
modifying my cooking techniques. It only takes a little planning.

Mary


Posted by Morris Dovey on October 15, 2007, 11:50 am
 
Mary Fisher wrote:
|| Mary Fisher wrote:
||
||| It does. I know because we have one.
||
|| [ Posting from alt.solar.thermal ]
||
|| Greetings! Long time no read...
||
|| Have thought many times of you and yours - and would like to know
|| if your son has returned safe and sound...
|
| Thank you!
|
| A fortnight before he was due to go out he was called in by his
| boss and told he'd be going somewhere else instead. We were all
| relieved - but not a little guilty for feeling like that. It was at
| the expense of some other parents' son, wife's husband and
| children's father :-(

What a relief - I don't think you need feel guilty about wanting your
offspring away from danger. The hero business isn't all it's cracked
up to be.

| His new posting was to High Wycombe, in Buckinghamshire and with it
| came the rank of Chief Technician (the highest he can get).
|
| He didn't like it there, was 'flying a desk' and the base is largely
| civilian as well as other services but it did give him the excuse
| to buy a Triumph m/c to commute from his house in Wiltshire.
| Recently he was restored to RAF Lyneham and told me last night that
| he was very happy there, dealing with aeroplanes and in charge of
| real people who knew what they were doing.

Now /that/ sounds good!

| On his birthday, just before Christmas, he's due to do a duty stint
| in the Falklands for a few months.

I suspect that, for him, the "few months" will be the best part of
that. :-)

|| Have you kept records of your panel performance?
|
| As I said, somewhere else, in the first year the gas bills
| plummeted by about #300 and have been maintained at the low level.
| We've filed all the utility bills for the forty three years we've
| been in this house but haven't really analysed them - life's too
| short (and getting shorter!) to worry. We're confident that we did
| the right thing by getting the solar panel and enjoyed the huge
| refund we got from the gas company :-) We also got quite a large
| one from the electricity company too, I assume that's the result of
| replacing our remaining tungsten light bulbs with low energy ones
| and modifying my cooking techniques. It only takes a little
| planning.

I never doubted that you'd done 'the right thing'. It sounds a bit as
if there might be a real need for good solid "real world" alternative
energy performance histories to offset some of these questionable
reports.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/



Posted by John Stumbles on October 14, 2007, 10:47 pm
 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:07:20 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong Mary but you seem to be suggesting that (a) you
don't need an extra coil for solar heating if you have a boiler (b) that
any d-i-yer worth their salt should be able to make a coil and install it
in their existing tank themselves.

More details please.

(I can't make sense of what you're saying even allowing for the fact that
you have a solartwin system.)

--
John Stumbles

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Posted by Mary Fisher on October 15, 2007, 9:01 am
 


I'm sorry you have a problem ...

Mary



Posted by David Hansen on October 15, 2007, 11:51 am
 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:47:56 GMT someone who may be John Stumbles


Mary was responding to a posting which appeared to claim that a new
hot water cylinder would be needed for solar water heating. Whether
one is needed or not depends on the precise situation.

As well as the Solartwin approach you mentioned, Navitron offer a
heater battery that replaces an immersion heater. In both cases a
replacement cylinder is not needed. However, it may be desirable to
replace the cylinder anyway, because it is old and doesn't have
modern insulation or because the insulation is damaged or because
the insulation is not thick enough to make the best use of solar
(double and triple insulated cylinders stay warm for days), or the
cylinder does not have high recovery boiler coil. If replacing a
cylinder the cost of a solar coil is relatively small and one can
argue about the proportion of the cost which is due to solar heating
and the spend which would be desirable anyway.

The other possibility is that the original poster thought that a
second hot water cylinder was necessary, to pre-heat water going
into the main cylinder. Such an approach was advised in the past as
a way of avoiding replacing the main cylinder.



--
  David Hansen, Edinburgh
 I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
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