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Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 9:37 am
 


John Stumbles wrote:


I agree.



Contributing to I'd accept the possibility of at least in some small part.



Potential consequences in hundreds of years time. There is no immediate danger
and absolutely no reason or excuse for ill-considered panic action which may be
either futile or even counter-productive and will certainly damage western
economies further at a time when they are already endangered.



And how would that be ?



Yet more alarmism to keep the public afraid and malleable.



so, you are really saying that non-western civilisations == stone-age?

I'd say some 'greens' would at least like us to return at least to the era of
the mud hut and subsistence farming.

Graham


Posted by The Natural Philosopher on October 17, 2007, 12:34 pm
 
Eeyore wrote:

Tell that to to N Orleans.


That s fair comment: Governments in the West are largely composed of
marketing people, whose function is to sell the latest load of bullshit
to the electorate: faced with a complex and real crisis they are
singularly crap at coming up with imaginative and constructive solutions.

If not marketeers they are generally ideologues, who have pinned their
faith in 'principles' with a sort of religious zeal.


Anyone who HAS any real competence is to be found outside government,
where they can excercise their competence to make decent lives for
themselves and un businesses.


Any one of a million ways.



Hah! Always the case. Just because bad men use a good cause to promote
their grasp on power, desn;t mena the cause itself is invalid.

You must learn the basic principals of logic.


You would be surprised at how sophisticated stone age culture was
actually, but be that as it may, there is a grain of truth in the assertion.


I totally agree. Most of the religious zealots in the green movement
know as little and care less about the actual processes that keep them
alive as the zealots in the 'denial' movement.

You must rapidly come to a realisation  of the massive ignorance on ALL
sides before you can actually work out what is a constructive way forward.




Posted by Jim on October 19, 2007, 12:33 am
 

    All of S. La. is sinking into the Gulf of Mexico. That has been proven
by various surveys, IIRC, including satellite-based radar. Go to nola.com
and read the local paper; look for the study, it is about 8 months old.
    New Orleans was doomed, from day one....





Posted by Morris Dovey on October 19, 2007, 4:38 pm
 Steve Firth wrote:
|
|| Eeyore wrote:
||
|||| In the UK I think I can confidently say NEVER.
||
|| It's a good brag. May you always feel so safe.
|
| It's also completely untrue. However it seems that "Eeyore" is
| unable to admit that he is wrong, so he refuses to admit that he
| has seen this report:

<UK horror story snipped>

| All it takes is one example to prove him wrong, and there is the
| exact example he denies has ever happened in the UK.

You and Graham are both reasonably bright guys and we're all very
human and subject to human foibles.

Can we just stipulate that and get back to sunshine?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/



Posted by Morris Dovey on October 19, 2007, 5:43 pm
 Eeyore wrote:
| Morris Dovey wrote:

|| It's a good brag. May you always feel so safe.
|
| Thank you. Let's say, being murdered in my bed isn't even the last
| thing on my mind as I go to sleep, the idea simply never even
| enters my head at all. In this small city of around 70,000 we get a
| murder maybe once every five years or so. The last instance
| involved drug crime and it's easy to stay out of those circles.

You're welcome. Being murdered in my bed isn't something I worry
about, but I can't claim that the idea has never entered my head at
all. I live in the outskirts of a city of ~350,000 where there are
many times more non-firearm murders than that every year. Nearly of
the murders are either arise from domestic disputes or are
drug-related. I don't have exact statistics, but read the all too
frequent reports in the newspapers.

It might help to remember that Americans aren't simply Brits who've
forgotten how to spell. You and I see the world through different
eyes, and although we can carry on a conversation and agree about
nearly everything that a pair of Brits or a pair of Americans might
agree on, our ability to survive and thrive in our personal worlds
depends on our abilities to automatically react to events in different
contexts.

However difficult it might be for you to appreciate, the American
fixation on lethal defense (and you're mistaken if you believe it's
limited to firearms) has a solid basis in the American context. It
doesn't matter that anyone might find that irrational or uncivilized -
it's real. To reach back and borrow from British naval tradition:
We're prepared to repel all boarders. That there may (note the implied
uncertainty) no longer be a need such defense is moot - the
preparedness has become part of our fiber.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/



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