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Posted by Dave Plowman (News) on October 20, 2007, 12:10 pm
 

With a christian name like Herman of course. Melville was born in New York.

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Posted by Eeyore on October 20, 2007, 1:08 pm
 


The Natural Philosopher wrote:


based on his

You are correct. It went right over my head because of the Dickens thing.

I get the impression that a lot of Americans have this very false (and quaint)
impression
of Britain from 19th century novels. Jane Eyre for example would give you an
equally
distorted view.

If classic authors are what he wants he ought perhaps to read 'Jude the Obscure'
or 'The
Road to Wigan Pier'/'Down and Out in London and Paris'. That'll shake his ideas
up.

I'm struggling to think of a novel that represents modern Britain though.

Graham


Posted by Arnold Walker on October 20, 2007, 6:39 pm
 

Some of us don't consider New York part of America........
Heck the guy had to die for 50years before anyone would even read his works.
Now Mellville is considered one the greatest in America literature.
But then Liberals are into education much thses days and claim the guy's
English ,Japanese or anything else and the liberal would never know the
difference....dumbing down of education ,etc.,etc.
Might have to think for themself ,if they were educated.



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Posted by Doctor Drivel on October 23, 2007, 8:19 am
 

More like a part of Liverpool. Well up until 90 to 100 years ago,


Melville was a mechant sailor and wrote a lot about Liverpool as he spent
much time there.

'Redburn, His First Voyage' by Herman Melville 1849...

"Previous to this, having only seen the miserable wooden wharves and
shambling piers of New York... in Liverpool I beheld long China walls of
masonry; vast piers of stone; and a succession of granite-rimmed docks,
completely enclosed. The extent and solidity of these structures seemed
equal to what I had read of the old pyramids of Egypt. In magnitude, cost
and durability the docks of Liverpool surpass all others in the world... for
miles you may walk along that riverside, passing dock after dock, like a
chain of immense fortresses.

Prince's Dock, of comparatively recent construction, is perhaps the largest
of all and is well known to American sailors from the fact that it is mostly
frequented by the American shipping. Here lie the noble New York packets,
which at home are found at the foot of Wall-Street; and here also lie the
Mobile and Savannah cotton ships and traders."


Posted by Steve O'Hara-Smith on October 20, 2007, 6:45 am
 On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:39:51 +0000


    Compare and contrast - when my home was in the middle of 40 acres
of Co. Kildare we rarely bothered to lock the door. We did have a couple of
dogs but they were pets not guards.

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