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Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 1:41 pm
 


Sundug wrote:


And you'd believe what the Guardian says ? Have you seen the disarray their
precious
Liberal Party is in ?

Bwahahahahahahaaa !

Graham


Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 1:44 pm
 


Sundug wrote:


Rubbish. It was backed by the New Party.
http://www.newparty.co.uk/

Long overdue. Democracy together with responsible and accountable politics is
nearly
dead in the UK at this time. We currently merely have a few tired old nags
dragging
out their death throes.

Graham


Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 1:50 pm
 

Sundug wrote:


What's wrong with either of those ?

Nuclear power is the only sensible option if you believe in radical reduction of
CO2
emisions from electricity generation and you want that electricity to be
available for
more than a few hours a day.

Bring it on. There are some excellent French designed reactors that have been
quietly
and uncontroversially (and safely) supplying 80%+ of France's electricity needs
for
decades. And inexpensively too btw.

The British power reactors were an economic farce dictated originally by the
need to
use them to produce plutonium for bombs and then finally by the adoption of a
'techonology too far' perhaps in the case of the AGR which was 'too clever by
half'
mostly and as a result cost an utter fortune.

Graham


Posted by The Natural Philosopher on October 17, 2007, 4:24 pm
 Eeyore wrote:

of CO2

available for

quietly

needs for

need to

half'

Agreed on all counts.

The problem is the USA in particular, and the west in general are only
to aware that once you have reactor grade uranium, you can make a fast
breeder reactor to create weapons grade plutonium. Nasty.

However conversely a separator capable of achieving reactor grade
uranium is not NECESSARILY at all capable of refining down to weapons
grade URANIUM.

Which is why there are UN nuclear inspectorates..although these seem to
being killed off a shade rapidly.(Kelly)


Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 4:39 pm
 

The Natural Philosopher wrote:


No breeder is required. Enriched uranium fuel will produce plutonium in a simple
thermal
reactor. Doesn't even need to be a power reactor.You just need to be careful
with the burn
rate and extract the used fuel earlier rather than later, so the plutonium
itself isn't
burnt up.

Graham


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