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Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 1:08 pm
 


The Natural Philosopher wrote:


production

rainforest !

It had nothing to do with Government.

It's the 'green movement' with its promotion of bio-fuels that's resulted in high
demand from the public 'to appear green' that can't be met from indigenous supply
which is in turn destroying rainforests.

Oh, the irony !

Graham


Posted by The Natural Philosopher on October 17, 2007, 4:47 pm
 
Eeyore wrote:

production

rainforest !

high

supply

Indeed: Tax fossil fuel.  henlet hatever technologies are cost effective
come up.

If rainforests are Good Things, tax anything that happens as a result of
rainforest destruction, and pay subsidies to people managing rain forests.



Posted by Eeyore on October 17, 2007, 1:10 pm
 

The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Taking government spending in toto, that's no different to offering free home
insulation upgrades. The money simply gets there by a slightly different route.

Taxes, subsidies, thay all amount to the same thing in the end.

Graham


Posted by The Natural Philosopher on October 17, 2007, 4:55 pm
 Eeyore wrote:

It is,  and it isn't.

Taxes are easy to apply because we have mechanisms in place to do just
that. If yu spal a big fuel tax on the ol companies, you hav few easily
monitrable targts.

Subsidies need to be applied for, and have a hugely wasteful extra
bureaucracy to administer them. I have seldom found any goverment
handouts that need to be applied for to be worth  the trouble of
applying for them.

OTOH every time petrol goes up another 5p a liter, I am acutely aware of
how much it costs to fill the tank, and teh idea of a cheaper to run car
looms even higher in my list of things to be considered.



Yes and no. We do NOT have a mechanism to distribute subsidies to every
man, women company and child, in place. We DO have a mechanism to tax
every man woman and child, and company, in place.

In particular by scrapping taxes on savings and wealth, and labour, and
putting it all on CONSUMPTION via the VAT system, we have a perfect
opportunity to move towards a highly employed society, that exhibits
extreme thriftiness.




Posted by Jim on October 19, 2007, 12:11 am
 

    Yes, saw that on CNN!!!!

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.
    Sanity is insanity.

    That last bit I made up meself; I rather fancy it!



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