Posted by Said Alyami on April 5, 2008, 5:32 pm
hi every one
since about one year I came up with a new concept and design in solar
dish stirling engine ,,, I reached this concept after about 2 years of
studying in stirling engine cycles ,,, I did that as a hobby in the
beginning but I got very involved to reach a better concept for the
whole design.
I am very positive now about the new concept and the design based upon
it to increase the efficieny by 35% to 40% of the existing design of
solar dish stirling engine. However, it worths to indicate this
concept and design works only with stirling engine using sun rays as
the source of heat only.
however the problem now is I cannot find any esatblishment or society
or kind of group in the U.S that would lestin to my new concept even
to know what is it or inspect if it is correct or not, although such
inspecting will not take more than one hour for a capable person
because the whole concept and design is simple and easy to be
analyzed ,,,. it is easy to compare the simplicity and high effect of
this new concept with the introductory of the Regenerator concept in
stirling cylcle, although it was simple and easy to understand, its
effect on effeciency was very big.
I am an interantional student living and studying Engineering at
Wichita, Kansas , when I went to the engineering department in my
university they did not know what to do with such thing because they
do not have a research program in such field , they suggested to talk
with professors in the dept if one would like to get involved but
every one of them told me he is very busy with what he already have
and have no intrest about any thing else.
I sent many e-mails to many societies, assosiations, agencies,
individuals in the field of thermal solar power , asking about who
might be intrested to lestin to me (without disclausing the concept).
but I got no answer or replay from any of them,,,
a guy once suggested to go to the U.S Department of Energy , but that
is a complicated and long process specially I am not a citizen.
I am looking for a respectfull group or establishment that can take
things in easier manner and can test the concept and its design and
their feasibility to approve them as a tested and approved concept.
And from there it can be taken to fulfill a need in the region of
power generating. I hope some one here can guide me to the right
direction.
Thank you
Said.H.Alyami
Posted by Morris Dovey on April 5, 2008, 6:41 pm
Said Alyami wrote:
> I am very positive now about the new concept and the design based upon
> it to increase the efficieny by 35% to 40% of the existing design of
> solar dish stirling engine. However, it worths to indicate this
> concept and design works only with stirling engine using sun rays as
> the source of heat only.
Having a concept is not enough. Everyone has ideas - and many
turn out not to be more than a waste of time. If you wnat to
present a convincing case for your concept/design, you'll need to
produce a functioning prototype that you can demonstrate
immediately on request.
> however the problem now is I cannot find any esatblishment or society
> or kind of group in the U.S that would lestin to my new concept even
> to know what is it or inspect if it is correct or not, although such
> inspecting will not take more than one hour for a capable person
> because the whole concept and design is simple and easy to be
> analyzed ,,,. it is easy to compare the simplicity and high effect of
> this new concept with the introductory of the Regenerator concept in
> stirling cylcle, although it was simple and easy to understand, its
> effect on effeciency was very big.
Are you ready now for that person to spend an hour of their time
seeing your development actually perform? If not, then you
haven't prepared as you should have. If you have done, then
you're ready.
> I am an interantional student living and studying Engineering at
> Wichita, Kansas , when I went to the engineering department in my
> university they did not know what to do with such thing because they
> do not have a research program in such field , they suggested to talk
> with professors in the dept if one would like to get involved but
> every one of them told me he is very busy with what he already have
> and have no intrest about any thing else.
I'd consider this a warning that what you have may not be as
innovative as you'd like to believe. I'm inclined to believe that
if your innovation were as significant an advance as you seem to
think, they'd have become at least a bit excited...
> I sent many e-mails to many societies, assosiations, agencies,
> individuals in the field of thermal solar power , asking about who
> might be intrested to lestin to me (without disclausing the concept).
> but I got no answer or replay from any of them,,,
> a guy once suggested to go to the U.S Department of Energy , but that
> is a complicated and long process specially I am not a citizen.
Good ideas are good ideas, no matter their origin...
> I am looking for a respectfull group or establishment that can take
> things in easier manner and can test the concept and its design and
> their feasibility to approve them as a tested and approved concept.
> And from there it can be taken to fulfill a need in the region of
> power generating. I hope some one here can guide me to the right
> direction.
I did a quick Google web search on [Kansas "venture capital"] and
got 485,000 hits. Venture capitalists are people and
organizations that look for people with innovative ideas to take
to market and who allow you to use their money in return for a
share of the profits in your commercial success.
I suggest that you make certain that you are fully prepared, that
you then do this web search for yourself, and that when they ask
if you can provide a product demonstration you tell them: "Yes,
today!"
> Thank you
> Said.H.Alyami
HTH
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by Said Alyami on April 6, 2008, 1:52 am
Dear Morris and David
Thank you for your replay ... in fact yes I have a working prototype
and it works will, I should indicate that this concept is not changing
the theory of stirling engine as it deals with the mechanism that is
used to use sun rays to feed the engine and another internal
mechanism. Which means any capable person analyzing the concept will
not spend any time to know if it works or not because it already
works, he will spend time to make sure the effecienty is increased
compared to the existing designs, and by the way that is easy too.
applying for a patent is something that is always on my mind but for
a normal guy like me it can be too expensive and takes years, about
going to venture capital firms, that is not a good choice in my case
because my concept serve large scales applications only and almost the
only costumers are those power facilities that plan to use solar
thermal power as one of their resources, it is not feasible for small
scale applications like households.
I think the best direction I can go with is to participate with a
research center or a university or any development group that can
adopt such concept, ofcourse they will share rights with me, but that
is better than keeping it with me and going no where, and with such
support the concept can go faster and stronger to the real world. I
know there are many of those guys looking for such good idea, but I do
not know who are they and how to reach them, and thats why I think
may be someone in this group can direct me.
another option can be to participate in a scientific or engineering
contest with this design, such contest can be a good way to reserve
the rights of the design and at the same time get the attentions from
those who might be intrested. so if any one know a contest that can
serve this goal, I will be gratefull for him.
Thank you
Said.H Alyami
Posted by Morris Dovey on April 6, 2008, 3:08 am
Said Alyami wrote:
> Thank you for your replay ... in fact yes I have a working prototype
> and it works will, I should indicate that this concept is not changing
> the theory of stirling engine as it deals with the mechanism that is
> used to use sun rays to feed the engine and another internal
> mechanism. Which means any capable person analyzing the concept will
> not spend any time to know if it works or not because it already
> works, he will spend time to make sure the effecienty is increased
> compared to the existing designs, and by the way that is easy too.
If you have no patent, then anyone to whom you show your
innovation can legally use, manufacture, and even patent it un
the USA. That may not seem right, but it's the way things are. If
you have any doubts at all that this is so, you should talk with
a patent attorney - most that I've known have been willing to
provide an initial consultation without charging me a fee.
> applying for a patent is something that is always on my mind but for
> a normal guy like me it can be too expensive and takes years, about
> going to venture capital firms, that is not a good choice in my case
> because my concept serve large scales applications only and almost the
> only costumers are those power facilities that plan to use solar
> thermal power as one of their resources, it is not feasible for small
> scale applications like households.
If you are willing to research existing patents (Google is your
friend for this) and read up on the filing requirements, you can
file your own patent inexpensively and such protections as a
patent offers become effective immediately your properly
completed application is received at the US Patent and Trademark
Office (PTO).
> I think the best direction I can go with is to participate with a
> research center or a university or any development group that can
> adopt such concept, ofcourse they will share rights with me, but that
> is better than keeping it with me and going no where, and with such
> support the concept can go faster and stronger to the real world. I
> know there are many of those guys looking for such good idea, but I do
> not know who are they and how to reach them, and thats why I think
> may be someone in this group can direct me.
They will _not_ share rights with you. If you don't take the
trouble to obtain a patent, then there are no rights to share.
Those rights come only with a patent.
> another option can be to participate in a scientific or engineering
> contest with this design, such contest can be a good way to reserve
> the rights of the design and at the same time get the attentions from
> those who might be intrested. so if any one know a contest that can
> serve this goal, I will be gratefull for him.
Again, the only mechanism by which you can claim any rights is a
patent. If you hold a patent on your innovation, you'll be much
more likely to receive the kinds of attention you're talking
about.
If you have a real advance, then do the work to obtain the
patent. If you do not make that effort, then you are entitled
only to the satisfaction of coming up with a new idea - which is
not a bad thing, but not as satisfying as expanding the number of
choices available to you (and those you care about) throughout
the rest of your life.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by nicksanspam on April 6, 2008, 7:59 am
>If you have no patent, then anyone to whom you show your
>innovation can legally use, manufacture, and even patent it un
>the USA.
Showing an invention to someone without a non-disclosure agreement can
make it impossible for the inventor to patent the invention. And if that
someone makes, uses, or sells the invention after it's patented and after
signing a non-disclosure agreement, he's likely liable for treble damages.
Having a patent application in hand affords some protection, but it's
better to have an issued patent.
Nick, speaking ex-catheter as a Registered US Patent Agent
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> it to increase the efficieny by 35% to 40% of the existing design of
> solar dish stirling engine. However, it worths to indicate this
> concept and design works only with stirling engine using sun rays as
> the source of heat only.