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Posted by Voice of freedom on June 20, 2004, 10:40 pm
6-20-04: On cable news, an expert says that the Saudi kingdom is now in a
state of civil war, and that if we lose Saudi oil, we could be facing $ a
gallon gas prices and rationing here in the U.S.

This group is for discussion of how we can make it a national goal in the
United States to replace fossil fuel power generation...


A Voice Of Freedom

Posted by Steve Spence on June 20, 2004, 11:14 pm
Oh, sure, replace one nightmare with another.

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Posted by Gun Woman on June 21, 2004, 4:49 am

If being anti-nuke is a religion to you, you won't listen to reasoning.

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Posted by Glenn on June 21, 2004, 4:08 pm
 So how do you plan to reason with eternally toxic waste?

And better question ... Why would you when you could develop renewable
energy that does not burden a thousand generations with your waste?


Gun Woman wrote:

Posted by Karl Johanson on June 21, 2004, 5:08 pm
Spent nuclear fuel gets less dangerous over time. In around a day it loses
around 60% of it's level of radioactivity. In around 10 years, it loses
around 99.99% of it's level of radioactivity. In around 1,000 years, it
tends to be less dangerous than some of the ores the Uranium was mined from.

Cadmium & Arsenic, used in some solar cells, are toxic forever. The Lead
used for load levelling batteries for solar or wind power, is toxic and
mutagenic forever. The lead in one households worth of batteries can
contaminate around 10 billion litres of water to above EPA standards. (All
energy types have dangers and environmental consequences.)

How to deal with spent nuclear fuel? Assuming you don't reprocess: allow it
to cool for around 10 years. Put it in multilined containers & bury it in
solid rock, with low ground water speeds. Surround it with bentonite clay.

Natural nuclear reactors at Gabon Africa went critical around 1.8 billion
years ago, and fissioned for around half a million years. The reactors
produced around 4,000 pounds of Plutonium. The Plutonium didn't migrate
significantly through the rock it was formed in, in spite of it being
uncontained, unvitrified, in spite of a lack of a bentonite surrounding, and
in spite of significant amounts of boiling water flowing over it for around
half a million years.

Karl Johanson

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